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Fratello threatens to arrest Bonzi
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s_knight8
2005-05-03 14:23:57 UTC
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Wells's parting shot? He doesn't want to leave the organization. "This has
been the best time of my life," Wells said. "I want to be here. I don't want
to go nowhere. I just don't know why Coach won't play me. This is eating me
up. I feel like I've been in Portland for a day." The Grizzlies got Wells
from Portland in a December 2003 trade for Wesley Person in part because
Wells's relationship deteriorated with then-coach Maurice Cheeks.

Wells, recognized for his promptness, entered the building 5-10 minutes
late. He walked into a room where the team was assembled for a film session.
Fratello greeted Wells at the door and told the veteran guard to go home,
and not return for Game 4. "(Team security) called me later and said if I
came to the gym then I'd be arrested for trespassing," Wells said. "I don't
know what happeend. I didn't say anything to (Fratello). I was just as
confused as the fans were."
Blazer Fan Dan
2005-05-03 16:32:47 UTC
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Wells's parting shot? He doesn't want to leave the organization. "This has
been the best time of my life," Wells said. "I want to be here. I don't want
to go nowhere. I just don't know why Coach won't play me. This is eating me
up. I feel like I've been in Portland for a day." The Grizzlies got Wells
from Portland in a December 2003 trade for Wesley Person in part because
Wells's relationship deteriorated with then-coach Maurice Cheeks.
Wells, recognized for his promptness, entered the building 5-10 minutes
late. He walked into a room where the team was assembled for a film session.
Fratello greeted Wells at the door and told the veteran guard to go home,
and not return for Game 4. "(Team security) called me later and said if I
came to the gym then I'd be arrested for trespassing," Wells said. "I don't
know what happeend. I didn't say anything to (Fratello). I was just as
confused as the fans were."
it's never Bonzi's fault...
Chainsaw
2005-05-03 17:28:36 UTC
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Wells's parting shot? He doesn't want to leave the organization.
"This has
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been the best time of my life," Wells said. "I want to be here. I
don't want
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to go nowhere. I just don't know why Coach won't play me. This is
eating me
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up. I feel like I've been in Portland for a day." The Grizzlies got
Wells
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from Portland in a December 2003 trade for Wesley Person in part
because
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Wells's relationship deteriorated with then-coach Maurice Cheeks.
Wells, recognized for his promptness, entered the building 5-10
minutes
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late. He walked into a room where the team was assembled for a film
session.
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Fratello greeted Wells at the door and told the veteran guard to go
home,
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and not return for Game 4. "(Team security) called me later and said
if I
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came to the gym then I'd be arrested for trespassing," Wells said. "I
don't
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know what happeend. I didn't say anything to (Fratello). I was just
as
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confused as the fans were."
it's never Bonzi's fault...
I was surprised when West made the trade for him. West has traditionally
avoided knuckleheads, almost always choosing character and good teamsmanship
over arrogance and selfishness.
Blazer Fan Dan
2005-05-03 17:42:55 UTC
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I was surprised when West made the trade for him. West has
traditionally
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avoided knuckleheads, almost always choosing character and good teamsmanship
over arrogance and selfishness.
oh you didn't hear? It's 100% the media in Portland. Bonzi is a perfect
gentleman. same with Rasheed and Jeff McInnis.
Chainsaw
2005-05-03 19:59:48 UTC
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I was surprised when West made the trade for him. West has
traditionally
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avoided knuckleheads, almost always choosing character and good
teamsmanship
Post by Chainsaw
over arrogance and selfishness.
oh you didn't hear? It's 100% the media in Portland. Bonzi is a perfect
gentleman. same with Rasheed and Jeff McInnis.
Sarcasm aside for a moment, Wells is clearly a knucklehead. Rasheed seems
to have gone on Prozac or started dosing St. John's Wort every day. He seems
to have chilled substantially since getting to Detroit. McInnis I can't
speak to.
j***@utnet.utoledo.edu
2005-05-03 20:11:30 UTC
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I was surprised when West made the trade for him. West has
traditionally
Post by Chainsaw
avoided knuckleheads, almost always choosing character and good
teamsmanship
Post by Chainsaw
over arrogance and selfishness.
oh you didn't hear? It's 100% the media in Portland. Bonzi is a perfect
gentleman. same with Rasheed and Jeff McInnis.
Sarcasm aside for a moment, Wells is clearly a knucklehead. Rasheed seems
to have gone on Prozac or started dosing St. John's Wort every day. He seems
to have chilled substantially since getting to Detroit. McInnis I can't
speak to.
Rasheed still gets too many technical fouls -- I know, Laurel, fewer
than he used to, but still .... Aside from that, however, he has
really been a model citizen in Detroit. Coaches, team-mates, and fans
all love him, and he remains active in worthy community projects.
Maybe it's St. John's Wort; maybe it's just a fresh start/change of
scenery; maybe it's the fact that there's less presssure in Detroit to
be THE man, THE team leader. A cynic might say, "well, it's easy to be
a good guy when you come in and are the last piece to winning a
championship." But it wasn't clear the Pistons were going to be
champions until maybe after Game 4 of the Finals last year--they almost
lost to the Nets and also had a tough time with the Pacers in the EC
Finals. And Rasheed reacted well throughout that run. So far, so
good.--Joe
Terraholm
2005-05-03 23:29:17 UTC
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oh you didn't hear? It's 100% the media in Portland. Bonzi is a
perfect gentleman. same with Rasheed and Jeff McInnis.
Sarcasm aside for a moment, Wells is clearly a knucklehead. Rasheed
seems to have gone on Prozac or started dosing St. John's Wort every
day. He seems to have chilled substantially since getting to
Detroit. McInnis I can't speak to.
Rasheed still gets too many technical fouls -- I know, Laurel, fewer
than he used to, but still ....
As I said before the Ts now are not a terrible problem compared to the
past.
He used to literally throw a tantrum and get tossed.
He still taunts crowds and gets reputation Ts along with the ones he so
richly deserves.
The last one when on the bench he was yelling "and one!" when he thought Ben
got fouled.
Should have had one in that game for taunting...they let that pass.

And the silver lining is he uses them as motivation. The year he was really
passive and had 10...at times I have to admit I actually wished for him to
get a T a few times...

Aside from that, however, he has
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really been a model citizen in Detroit. Coaches, team-mates, and fans
all love him, and he remains active in worthy community projects.
Maybe it's St. John's Wort; maybe it's just a fresh start/change of
scenery; maybe it's the fact that there's less presssure in Detroit to
be THE man, THE team leader. A cynic might say, "well, it's easy to
be a good guy when you come in and are the last piece to winning a
championship." But it wasn't clear the Pistons were going to be
champions until maybe after Game 4 of the Finals last year--they
almost lost to the Nets and also had a tough time with the Pacers in
the EC Finals. And Rasheed reacted well throughout that run. So
far, so good.--Joe
He is the same as he was in Portland. His game has not changed, he still
calls the defense and leads just fine. This team too relies on balanced
scoring instead of a superstar. He is as much a leader, he has the same
faults and strengths. He even takes the same number of FGAs.... he took on
more pressure with his 'guaranteed' win last year than he ever had in
Portland.
--
Laurel T
"Wallace is a riddle wrapped in a mystery,
wrapped in a headband." S.I.
Soldier
2005-05-07 22:35:49 UTC
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Post by Chainsaw
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I was surprised when West made the trade for him. West has
traditionally
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avoided knuckleheads, almost always choosing character and good
teamsmanship
Post by Chainsaw
over arrogance and selfishness.
oh you didn't hear? It's 100% the media in Portland. Bonzi is a perfect
gentleman. same with Rasheed and Jeff McInnis.
The pud phcukin spit in Danny Ferry's face. Phcuk Bonzai Buddy!
Blazer Fan Dan
2005-05-08 00:33:33 UTC
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On 3 May 2005 10:42:55 -0700, "Blazer Fan Dan"
Post by Chainsaw
Post by Chainsaw
I was surprised when West made the trade for him. West has
traditionally
Post by Chainsaw
avoided knuckleheads, almost always choosing character and good
teamsmanship
Post by Chainsaw
over arrogance and selfishness.
oh you didn't hear? It's 100% the media in Portland. Bonzi is a perfect
gentleman. same with Rasheed and Jeff McInnis.
The pud phcukin spit in Danny Ferry's face. Phcuk Bonzai Buddy!
huh?
Soldier
2005-05-08 00:39:37 UTC
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On 3 May 2005 10:42:55 -0700, "Blazer Fan Dan"
Post by Chainsaw
Post by Chainsaw
I was surprised when West made the trade for him. West has
traditionally
Post by Chainsaw
avoided knuckleheads, almost always choosing character and good
teamsmanship
Post by Chainsaw
over arrogance and selfishness.
oh you didn't hear? It's 100% the media in Portland. Bonzi is a
perfect
Post by Chainsaw
gentleman. same with Rasheed and Jeff McInnis.
The pud phcukin spit in Danny Ferry's face. Phcuk Bonzai Buddy!
huh?
Why don't ewe learnt how to speak Englich dummmmm bass. <rolleyes>
Blazer Fan Dan
2005-05-08 03:08:55 UTC
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gentleman. same with Rasheed and Jeff McInnis.
The pud phcukin spit in Danny Ferry's face. Phcuk Bonzai Buddy!
huh?
Why don't ewe learnt how to speak Englich dummmmm bass. <rolleyes>
h3y d00d. h0wz j00r m4d g4m1ng 5k1llz?!

U R a h8r. you a fux0r.
Granville Waiters' Ghost
2005-05-08 06:48:50 UTC
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gentleman. same with Rasheed and Jeff McInnis.
The pud phcukin spit in Danny Ferry's face. Phcuk Bonzai Buddy!
huh?
Why don't ewe learnt how to speak Englich dummmmm bass. <rolleyes>
h3y d00d. h0wz j00r m4d g4m1ng 5k1llz?!
U R a h8r. you a fux0r.
l33t!
Soldier
2005-05-08 17:27:50 UTC
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gentleman. same with Rasheed and Jeff McInnis.
The pud phcukin spit in Danny Ferry's face. Phcuk Bonzai Buddy!
huh?
Why don't ewe learnt how to speak Englich dummmmm bass. <rolleyes>
h3y d00d. h0wz j00r m4d g4m1ng 5k1llz?!
U R a h8r. you a fux0r.
l33t!
It's 1337 dummmmmm bass <rolleyes>

Terraholm
2005-05-03 19:36:00 UTC
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Post by Chainsaw
I was surprised when West made the trade for him. West has
traditionally avoided knuckleheads, almost always choosing character
and good teamsmanship over arrogance and selfishness.
So Shaq and Kobe never have shown either of those traits?
depends on the talent level how much coaches will tolerate....
Or maybe West thought he could turn him into a choir boy ala JWill?
--
Laurel T
"Quite honestly we have had players on our teams before
that make Bonzi Wells look like Mary Poppins."
Hubie Brown
Chainsaw
2005-05-03 20:15:50 UTC
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Post by Terraholm
Post by Chainsaw
I was surprised when West made the trade for him. West has
traditionally avoided knuckleheads, almost always choosing character
and good teamsmanship over arrogance and selfishness.
So Shaq and Kobe never have shown either of those traits?
depends on the talent level how much coaches will tolerate....
LOL. Point. But isn't Bonzi as talented as Mike Miller or
some of the other Griz guards who do play? I think probably
moreso.
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Or maybe West thought he could turn him into a choir boy ala JWill?
That would be my guess.
Terraholm
2005-05-03 23:13:52 UTC
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I was surprised when West made the trade for him. West has
traditionally avoided knuckleheads, almost always choosing character
and good teamsmanship over arrogance and selfishness.
So Shaq and Kobe never have shown either of those traits?
depends on the talent level how much coaches will tolerate....
LOL. Point. But isn't Bonzi as talented as Mike Miller or
some of the other Griz guards who do play? I think probably
moreso.
Depends on the night. He would be worth a try IMO in any game because he can
go off and take over a game. He holds the blazers' record for points in a
playoff game. Think it was 48.
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Or maybe West thought he could turn him into a choir boy ala JWill?
That would be my guess.
On the other hand... with anyone that allowed Rider on a team can it really
be too big a surprize for taking on Bonzi?...=)
--
Laurel T
"I told him, 'Coach, there's an ocean out there.
Let me go swimming,"' Bonzi Wells
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