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Payton and Hubie Brown meet in the parking lot
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s_knight8
2004-04-11 17:59:44 UTC
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After the Lakers' one-hour practice Saturday and before the team left
for
Sacramento to play today's game against the Kings, Gary Payton was
asked about
his two verbal altercations with Memphis Coach Hubie Brown during and
after the
Lakers' 103-95 victory Friday.

Payton made it clear that he did not want to talk about Brown but even
his
no-comment had attitude.

"I don't want to talk about nothing, " Payton said with his voice
rising as he
walked off the court at the team's HealthSouth training facility in El
Segundo.

"Nothing happened, nothing."

Brown and Payton first got into it in the third quarter after a foul
was called
on the Grizzlies' Jason Williams.

Before Payton could shoot his free throws, Brown began complaining to
officials
and then got into a colorful conversation with the Laker point guard.

Because Payton is known as one of the NBA's best talkers, not much was
made of
the incident until the two men ran into each other in the parking area
after
the game.

According to witnesses, Brown and Payton were nose to nose cursing at
each
other before Shaquille O'Neal, Kobe Bryant and others pulled Payton
away. No
contact was made nor any punches thrown.

"When I asked Gary [about the incident], I couldn't make out what he
said, but
he took about five minutes to say what whatever he was saying, " Laker
Coach
Phil Jackson joked. "He did say there was some cussing going on.

"I have a problem with Hubie Brown getting into it with players. We
all
remember Zim [New York Yankee bench coach Don Zimmer] in the playoffs
against
Pedro Martinez; we don't have to revisit those type of things."

The Lakers said they expect the NBA to look into the matter, but not
until
Monday. Jackson said that he doesn't know what to expect the league to
do with
Payton, who has been fined at least $40,000 by the NBA this season.

"That obviously is something that I would be concerned about, "
Jackson said
about the possibility of the NBA's taking action against Payton.
cLIeNUX user
2004-04-11 18:39:00 UTC
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Post by s_knight8
http://www.latimes.com/sports/basketball/nba/la-sp-lakerep11apr11,1,6896473.story?coll=la-headlines-sports-nba
After the Lakers' one-hour practice Saturday and before the team left
for
Sacramento to play today's game against the Kings, Gary Payton was
asked about
his two verbal altercations with Memphis Coach Hubie Brown during and
after the
Lakers' 103-95 victory Friday.
Payton made it clear that he did not want to talk about Brown but even
his
no-comment had attitude.
"I don't want to talk about nothing, " Payton said with his voice
rising as he
walked off the court at the team's HealthSouth training facility in El
Segundo.
"Nothing happened, nothing."
Brown and Payton first got into it in the third quarter after a foul
was called
on the Grizzlies' Jason Williams.
Before Payton could shoot his free throws, Brown began complaining to
officials
and then got into a colorful conversation with the Laker point guard.
Because Payton is known as one of the NBA's best talkers, not much was
made of
the incident until the two men ran into each other in the parking area
after
the game.
According to witnesses, Brown and Payton were nose to nose cursing at
each
other before Shaquille O'Neal, Kobe Bryant and others pulled Payton
away. No
contact was made nor any punches thrown.
GO HUBIE!

Michael Wilbon or somebody said it used to be that a heavyweight fighter
was the darling of the NAACP. George Forman is the darling of AARP.

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gabe mott
2004-04-13 08:06:15 UTC
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My favorite part of that whole artice is Phil Jackson's response:

"When I asked Gary [about the incident], I couldn't make out what he
said, but he took about five minutes to say what whatever he was
saying, " Laker
Coach Phil Jackson joked. "He did say there was some cussing going
on.

Those of us who believe that Jackson is a tremendously talented coach
(and not just the beneficiary of Michael, Pippen, Kobe and Shaq), are
always interested in what the hell he does to be able to handle all
the huge egos so well. This was for a nice little glimpse into how he
does it. In this quote, he totally respects Gary but at the same time
doesn't get sucked into the matter-- he comes off as reasonable-- we
can all relate to Gary jawing and not really understanding all of it.
Heath S.
2004-04-13 05:54:16 UTC
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Heath S.
2004-04-13 05:57:16 UTC
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Good for Hubie. Gary Payton is an idiot. The Lakers are a bunch of
arrogant, self-serving hot dogs. Kuddos to Hubie for letting them know
he's not intimidated. Hubie was on the hard court before Payton was
even on this earth. If Payton would shut his big mouth and listen to
Hubie for a minute, he might learn something about the game.

"You gotta believe"
-Heath
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